INmySTRATEjaket | 0-1-2 Points | Submitted 2013-06-20 20:30:10
I can't find one, or even a precise number to the book sales (Some sources said only 5000 while others claimed as many as 5 million in the first year; I'm inclined to believe that since it sold so well, and its first print was only 75,000 copies, it likely sold somewhere between 250,000 and 500,000 in its first year). It did bank over 300 million dollars in its first year through book sales and merchandising though and proceeded to be one of the most sold books in the US on an annual basis until 2009, when New Moon came out, so it was no small deal.
INmySTRATEjaket | 0-1-2 Points | Submitted 2013-06-20 20:19:19
Assuming two novel series from Young Adult fiction that have been adapted to film whose primary demographic is Caucasians from ages 16-26 has little overlap with Harry Potter is naive. The numbers don't come from people that have been drawn in to Twilight as in seen it, but look out how far the implications from Twilight reached. Think about how many posts came out either for or against it on this website alone, even if it was something as little as the phrase as "still a better love story than Twilight". When there is something with a huge fan base, such as Twilight, one of two things happens: either everyone hops on and recognizes it as good (much in the way of Star Wars when it released in the late 70s, we don't hear about it much anymore, but it had its own counter-community) or people begin to look for another item in the same genre to compare it to. Harry Potter picked up the slack. Of the 313 million people in the US (this is just the US, where Twilight would have ahd the largest effect as being published there originially), we have a population of over 300 million, with 64-78 percent of that being white. We'll use 64 percent, as that is the non-hispanic white percentage, with is roughly 190 million people (doing this in my head, so I'm using rough numbers). Factor that down to the primary demographic, which is about 1/7 to 1/6 that number, and we're left with about 30 million people. We can safely assume the number of young adults that read young adult fiction regularly is at least 15 percent, especially for franchises this large, bringing the number to 4.5 million people. Keeping in mind that these are people in their late teens, who read regularly, and are in high school or university, it's safe to project that these people, as standard teenagers in the US, spend on average 2-4 hours per day using the internet in some capacity. Even if this huge demographic doesn't actively read both franchises, their mindset is directly related to the sheer number of posts that is made about Twilight and/or Harry Potter. They don't have to be a uniform, shared audience to be directly affected by each other because of the advent of social networking, mass media, and image boards/image sharing sites.
INmySTRATEjaket | -5-6-7 Points | Submitted 2013-06-20 19:33:56
It's "straitjacket" actually. It's one word and doesn't have the silent "gh", but I can sense you wanted to make me look dumb, so I won't get angry, I'll just let you know the name comes from AIM, which only allowed 12 characters. And since your image seems to want to make a point about the novels rather than the movies, you can look at the image, which is also provided above. Harry Potter sales increased after Twilight came out and became one of the best selling books of 2005. Twilight drew people to Young Adult fiction, and once the war broke out over whether or not we should hate Twilight, and the vast majority of people on the internet started bashing it, everyone who was left landed on Harry potter.
(Also, just so you know if you want to look it up yourself, Harry Potter movies started doing significantly better after the first Twilight movie came out in 2008.)
INmySTRATEjaket | -2-3-4 Points | Submitted 2013-06-20 19:26:51 (Edited)
My "subjective opinion" as you pointed out isn't my own. It's based on movie reviews. Even Roger Ebert was fairly vocal about how he didn't enjoy the close of the series as much as the beginning of the franchise movie-wise, and most reviewers even acknoweledge in their reviews, that, even though the series did well with its actual close, the story that brought them there as portrayed within the movies was executed poorly and muddled, with the redeeming quality being the interactions between the characters. In spite of poor opening day reviews, however, Deathly Hallows Part 2 went on to make a global profit margin of nearly double that of anything predating the emergence of Twilight.
And if you want to argue the novel side of things, you can see that Order of the Phoenix sold nearly triple of what Goblet of Fire did in its opening weekend. Order of the Phoenix came out in 2006, while the first hardback Twilight book was published in 2005. Harry Potter is good, and it's earned a lot of its fans by being consistently good, but the fact is, it wouldn't be anywhere near what it ended up being had it not been for Twilight sucking people into Young Adult fiction because whether you loved or hated Twilight (or its premise, as a vast majority of the people that make the "still a better love story than Twilight" joke haven't even read the damn thing) it ended up making everyone choose a side in some way, and those that hated it landed on Harry Potter as an alternative.
Also, this post took forever because it rejected the image URL twice, so I had to DL it.
EDIT: Made Triple globally, not in the opening weekend.
INmySTRATEjaket | 210 Points | Submitted 2013-06-20 18:54:40
Trying to get 3G signal with Sprint
INmySTRATEjaket | 0-1-2 Points | Submitted 2013-06-20 18:52:34
Too bad all of these things were already like this. They always intended to let you freely share disc-based games and are the only major service in the market with digital sharing. They already had a rental system in place that was going to be free to access for local businesses, as well as larger ones like Gamestop. And anyone who had a physical copy of a game was going to be allowed to play offline. But no one wants facts, they want something to be angry at.
INmySTRATEjaket | 321 Points | Submitted 2013-06-20 18:49:45
Why is the guy in the street wearing a helmet and not Mr Suitcase?
INmySTRATEjaket | 210 Points | Submitted 2013-06-20 01:32:54
Losing E3 so badly sealed it, and I think they know that it won't sell well in the first week. They are probably counting in doing better with continuous sales because of the fact that it appeals to non-gaming audiences with its media center nature.
INmySTRATEjaket | -21-22-23 Points | Submitted 2013-06-20 01:29:39
As I said before, the books were almost cancelled until the movies came out. It was just a bunch of teenager back-reading.
And, if you'd noticed, I said the last 3 Harry Potters were really substandard, and the first 4 were great. (Order of the Phoenix was just what it was, I personally didn't enjoy the book because the first half was quite slow, but it was enjoyable overall.)
The main point is that, Harry Potter owes a lot of its success to Twilight being fucking awful, with the last 2 films being by far the most profitable of the films in the domestic box office.
Harry Potter was just a series of movies, then rapidly developed a cult-like following roughly around 2007-2008 with opening weekends netting ridiculous amounts of money.
It's just Young Adult fiction that appeals to a sense of the supernatural. With calculated deaths to incite an emotional reaction. Don't get me wrong, I've read all the books and quite liked them, but it irks me that so many people treat it like its a force of nature.
INmySTRATEjaket | 210 Points | Submitted 2013-06-20 01:17:52
I think doing a pre-order package for the xbox's launch could save it. Dropping the price by 50 dollars for pre orders can preserve profits and take away the PS4 advantage of being able to get a full game with the system for cheaper than the Xbox.
I've said it before, I think Microsoft is aiming long-term with this one. They don't want to abandon the 360 for a few years, so I'm assuming something bigger, like maybe a new exclusive franchise, is going to come within the next 2 years.
INmySTRATEjaket | 210 Points | Submitted 2013-06-20 01:14:13
I guess its kinda how people grew up. A lot of Indie developers are more looking to tell more powerful stories, and things like that, and even back in the late 80s and 90s, Nintendo has been seen has the more kiddie company with its common E rated games. I'm assuming it's more of a stigma.
INmySTRATEjaket | 210 Points | Submitted 2013-06-20 01:00:35
Yeah, its one of those little things that makes me more comfortable as a consumer. I'll eventually end up with both consoles, but at least this way I won't feel like I'm missing out if I choose a non-exclusive for PS4 over Xbox because of the controls/exclusive DLC or vice versa because of graphics. Pushing for better hardware is what screwed the PS3 at launch anyway, since the price tag was astronomical compared to the Xbox 360, which had been out for a year already. I guess both companies were trying to avoid something like that.
INmySTRATEjaket | 210 Points | Submitted 2013-06-20 00:57:11
The problem with the Wii-U as an indie producer is that the kit is hard to work with. I know several people that are actively trying to avoid it because the console (actual quote) "just doesn't fit with my vision of my game".
INmySTRATEjaket | 321 Points | Submitted 2013-06-20 00:52:03
Haha. My mind started to drift off while reading this and now all I can think of is a Joel McHale quote from Community where he said, "You're asking for our papers?! This is AMERICA, not ARIZONA."
INmySTRATEjaket | -31-32-33 Points | Submitted 2013-06-20 00:47:34
People need to realize that Harry Potter popular and Twilight popular are the same thing. Honestly, the HP series of movies really only did so well because people spent all their time hating on Twilight. The last 3 Harry Potter movies were pretty sub-tier compared to the start of the film saga, and the books, though they are written well (though somewhat predictably), really only took off because of the films. JK Rowling at one point even considered not finishing the books or just completely going in a different direction because she thought her fan support was lacking.
INmySTRATEjaket | 0-1-2 Points | Submitted 2013-06-20 00:40:21
The Xbox One was really just represented unfairly, which is a bummer. All of its features were so good, and everything "bad" about it was put in place to support those features, so I hope Sony's smear campaign doesn't completely ruin its chances of recovery. Console Wars really make no sense. Video Games are the only part of the entertainment industry that get so competitive, and it only does damage.
INmySTRATEjaket | 210 Points | Submitted 2013-06-19 21:16:25
The quickplay code has been plastered all over the forums for whenever the servers go down. It's actually pretty much the whole reason they actively avoid shutting down servers for maintenance now. I'd say close to one-third the community has come across it in some way, whether they realized what it is or not. Feel free to use it.
Also: I don't know how experienced you are with the game, but download the PBE (Public Beta Environment). You can only sign up on the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd of each month, and it involves a whole new download, but you'll be able to try new champions and patches before they release in the main game, and they give you tons of IP and RP to use on the PBE and automatically promote your account to 30, so you can just play around with a ton of champs and skins at no cost to you. Also, you don't need to worry about your IP and RP running out because they refill it every couple of days. It's a great environment to practice (especially since everyone tends to be nicer, since bans mean you can't sign up til the start of the next month.)
INmySTRATEjaket | 10-1 Points | Submitted 2013-06-19 21:06:43
Yeah, The XBLA market was a bitch to deal with (having had dealt with it myself when a friend tried to publish an indie game), but Microsoft (from what we heard from more established indie devs) wasn't always like that. It came around because of the way people made just truly terrible games and dropped them on the market for a quick penny. Consoles, no matter what company you look at, just aren't the place for Indie games. PSN never really served people too entirely better, either, which is a shame.
INmySTRATEjaket | 210 Points | Submitted 2013-06-19 18:24:23
Just type "thereisnourflevel" it loads the game to an emergency server that operates on the previous patch.
There's no need to be so secretive. It's not like you can get in trouble for it.
INmySTRATEjaket | 210 Points | Submitted 2013-06-19 17:47:17
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