Shelved by: MacLuver on 2012-05-21
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Even after loading clips, they do feel eerily similar.
According to the M16 trainers I've had over the years, clip and magazine are synonymous.
Well they're wrong they aren't the same.
Regardless, loading clips and magazines feels like loading batteries.
Clip = A clip is a device that is used to store multiple rounds of ammunition together as a unit, ready for insertion into the magazine of a rifle.
a clip is smaller, generally 5-10 rounds, a magazine is about 30 rounds, although with an m16, you only wanna load 28 or it'll jam.
No they aren't, clips are used to load magazines, in guns such as an sks or an m1 garand.
See my earlier picture
Then goole "stripper clips" that's what a clip is, they are not the same, although the movies would like you to think they are..
In the UK, clips are for low amount of rounds (hand guns and the like), whilst a magazine is what would be used for guns with high amount of rounds (like a machine gun).
I'm so technical with my weaponry, as you can tell. And this information I got from Bond.
When I can be bothered, I shall ask a member of the RAF what they are. As I know quite a lot of them since we live 5 minutes away from an RAF base.
Hmmm, that's interesting, I really can't see why they'd call magazines clips, they are completely different things, but hey they call the toilet the loo, so what do I know?
Why, what does "the loo" mean in the states?
We also call it "the bog" too :3
I've asked the Armed Forces peeps about it (again, I know a lot of them lol). They said; "Magazines and clips are the same things, there isn't any difference between them"
(Source: 3 "cannon fodder" a major and an ex-general - my grandpa, who uses the term "cannon fodder").
Well hate to break it to you, but they're wrong...
The first damn sentence;
"A stripper clip (in US parlance) or charger (in UK parlance) is a speedloader that holds several cartridges (usually consisting of 5 or 10 rounds) together in a single unit for easier loading of a firearm's magazine"
Key bit: "or charger (in UK parlance)"
When I said to them about what you said a clip was, they said that was a charger. Please! Remember we use different words for things!
And did you actually read the articles yourself?! Essentially, it's saying clips are what you insert into a magazine in the older guns!
Exactly! Clips are what you put into the magazines! They are different, a clip is used to quickly load a magazine! It is not a magazine!
Are we saying the same thing?
The article you linked me do says that the clip clips into the magazine if the magazine is not detachable and thus becomes part of the gun.
Thus, in that sense, they are the same thing as a magazine.
Skip to 3:05 and watch, the CLIP stays outside of the gun, while the rounds are inserted into the MAGAZINE
I think it depends on what clip you're talking about. Everything you're doing is specific "Stripper Clips" which are called "Chargers" here.
Clips, according to the stuff you've submitted yourself, are also used in the same way as magazines for the ones that aren't detachable. For example, like the ones Lara Croft uses in her hand gun.
You're talking about the type of clips that would go in say an m1 garand. Well even those while they do go into the magazine, they are not the magazine themselves.
Well, you know what, I really don't care. You keep saying they're separate things, and I'll keep saying they're not. Frankly, I'm going to take the knowledge of an ex-general above yours.
Ok. I really don't care, I know that I'm correct.
You are absolutely correct. Technically, they are two different things. But people have been calling magazines "clips" for so long, maybe people don't know better anymore.
Why don't you show your ex-general this conversation, he'll probably say that we're both correct to some degree, because I know that clips and magazines aren't the same thing.
Well, according to him they are.
"Stripper Clips", I will agree they're not the same thing. But again, they're called "Chargers" here.
Well not into the magazine I guess, just the rounds go into the magazine, but it is used to quickly load a magazine, it is not a magazine
why would he know more than an m16 trainer, or both anything? ask a smith fo' weapns
But you are correct on the 28-29 rounds is more reliable
bro ur retarded. i always load mine with 30 with no jams. i also have a surefire 60 round 0 jams.
Actually I am not "retarded", while loading up all thirty rounds is fine four recreational use, where a jam won't matter. Almost all special ops teams, along with the seals, and marines, load thirty round mags with 29 rounds. It does slightly increase reliability of feeding in the M4/M16 platform, not a ton, but enough that people who could die if their gun misfeeds don't load up all thirty rounds.
Ehh, I'm from a military family, and will probably be joining my self, That's the way my green beret cousin has taught me,
cool, and then you will be united in one mind and body again!
it feels like you're loading a double barrel with an X-box controller
Everyone, raise your hand if you think Trevor1837 needs to calm down...
Can't blame a man for being passionate ;-)
I suppose. I can clearly see what your passion is. lol
My passion is just a lot more fun :D