Anyone else not understand this?

First, materials. Bra and panties can be made from a range of materials, whereas bikinis are made from swimsuit material. Swim suit material is never transparent. Underwear material can be almost any materials.

Also, the quality of the underwear can range. We don't particularly want you seeing us in our favourite pair of underwear which are literally holding together with the elastic.

Third, coverage. Most swimwear you wear to the beach cover you bottom nicely, and hold the jubblies in place and cover most of them. Bras and panties can range in coverage. From g-strings to full briefs and bras typically always show boobage as they're designed to held with support and adding cleavage etc.

Fourth, the undertone. In the act of having sex the last thing that's taken off is the underwear. Also, (some) guys fixate on bras and panties, finding them sexy etc. Essentially, bras and panties are sexual and made to go under your clothes, whilst bikinis are not. I mean, bras and panties are also called "intimates", so are only shown when you want to get intimate.

Does that answer anything?

And I happen to know quite a few guys (by that, all of my guy friends) who'd feel 'uncomfortable' seeing a girl in her underwear and not be bothered by bikinis.

that was very short discription !! :P

thanks nixie the pixie !!

You're welcome.

The differences are quite obvious, if you think about it though.

Not when it comes to the legality of such things.

Legality?

If you're talking about wandering around outside in your undies, it is actually legal (at least in the UK) as long as they're not excessively skimpy underwear and nothing is on show, if you get what I mean.

I live in America, and if it's underwear it's illegal, but a bikini is legal.

As much as I'd call you guys lucky, apparently some European countries allow full (or at least topless) nudity of women.

Most places in Europe with beaches will allow topless women.

However, I generally wouldn't go to them, as most European men can be a lot less... respecting of personal space.

Actually, in New York, I'm pretty sure, it's legal to have nothing covering your top-half in public. So if you see some chick walking around half-naked in Central Park; it's totally fine! =D

you know this was most likely posted by a pre-teen or a 13-15 year old, and also, this is my last post on this website, im deleting my account

Why you leaving us?

(and it does float about the internet quite a lot)

im leaving because im not really finding anything amusing on this website anymore, its stupid shit

Seriously?

How can you not think this is funny?

http://www.lolbrary.com/post/18380/turtle-conundrum/

with everything thats going on in my life im not finding anything funny

Sorry to hear that man.

Shout out if there's anything you think a "stranger" over the internet can do to help you. You know we're tight here.

well in the past year, my mom killed herself, my fiancee left me, and now my brother is in the hospital from trying to kill himself, my whole family suffers from depression including myself

Depression is deadly. Not that I need to tell you that.

Are you on medication?

I've got to crash as I didn't go to sleep last night but you should keep your account at least until we can have an actual conversation :)

The main thing to focus on is that things do get better. Even people with chronic depression have up days sometimes, as you know. That's what you want to live for. Also treatment is not just a placebo.

i wanted to say thank you to you bill

In your state I see how trivial comedies would come as unappealing, though we've been having a large deal of average and sub-average jokes through here as of late, but that's not what this is about.

Bill sent me here because he trusted my way with words and wanted me to try to help you, but I'll tell you what I told him: sometimes life is just shit and there's nothing you can really do. There's no reason to suspect that life will get better, for there's no assurance of it. The rest of your life could be filled with even more shit, and it could get worse and worse as you go on. I have no hollow encouragements to give you for I know how little they help from experience.

Each man's reason for living is his own, it's what he assigns to it. I can assign you no cause, nor tell you how to find one. I can merely wish you well in your search, however useless my wishes are. I would remind you, though, that this is a community, and this community can be here for you, at least as far as emotional and morale support.

Dude, that's a fatalistic world view if I ever heard one. The way you talk, there would be no reason to live at all. Your way with words is rather discouraging...

I believe there is a God in heaven who loves me so much that he came to the planet He made and died so that I didn't have to spend my life on this planet with a fatalistic, life-is-pointless attitude.

I prefer to believe that the truth of our existence revolves around the fact that God exists, Jesus paid the price for our sins, and we have the opportunity to reject the lies that our lives are meaningless, or that it's up to us to derive meaning from such droll activities as getting up, eating, going to work, playing video games, having sex with our wives, taking dumps, and looking at lolbrary.

Bad things happen - very bad things. But neither very bad things, nor very good things, are what make up the substance of our existence. How we respond to them does. Do we choose to walk in truth? Or allow these things to destroy us?

Anyway, safepooter (wish there was a name we could use other than that, lol). I feel for you man... My heart hurts to hear of the hardships you have had to endure. As far as suffering from depression, I believe it would benefit you to see a physician who can talk to you about the things you deal with and prescribe a medication. I think it would be good to talk to a counselor, or a pastor, who you feel comfortable talking with about some of this stuff. It isn't going to do you any good to hold this stuff in - it's good that it came out here. At least it did somewhere. There isn't much that we can do though, being that we are unable to have face to face contact, and do not know you well.

Call out on God, man. I guarantee you, if you genuinely call out on Him, He will hear you, and carry you through this.

You believe, you prefer to believe, you choose, you have faith. I observe, I understand, I know, I deduce.

If there is a god out there, and he truly is just, then how the hell does he allow shit like this to happen to safepooter? If I loved someone I wouldn't kill his family to show him how I'd always be there for him.

All you've done here is generic christian droll, which I'm sure he's heard enough of by this point. If the christian god is real, then we all have much to be depressed about.

http://www.lolbrary.com/post/18347/a-fellow-dark-knight/

Having faith in God gives you a reason to live. I've been there when I've thought about "what's the point of living? Life sucks, and then you die.. so, why live?" But trusting in God has given me a reason to live and something to help me when I have hard times, which is quite often. I don't judge people who disagree, or try to shove it down other peoples' throats. I truly am sorry about the hardcore "Christians" who give the whole bunch a bad connotation, but same thing to every belief group, I've met some cool guys who are atheist, and I've also met some real toolbags, but I don't go around bashing the whole group. This is my $.02- something that everyone has and is worth the same.

If the christian god is real, why not kill yourself now and get to heaven early?

Suicide is a Sin though. However, if you kill yourself, you don't go to Heaven or Hell, just get trapped in "Limbo Land" for all eternity, never finding rest.

I think, this is just from memory.

I know Catholics say that, but they don't really have a biblical backing.

A lot of Christians say it's implied though, specifically through these passages;

(1 Corinthians 6:19-20 NIV) [19] Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; [20] you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.

(1 Corinthians 3:16-17 NIV) [16] Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you? [17] If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple.

It does clearly state in the Bible that murder is a Sin, and these passages suggest that your body isn't yours, it's God's. Thus, killing yourself would basically be murdering God.

Hence, they feel that suicide is a Sin. But yes, it's not clear cut.

TBH, your "If the christian god is real, why not kill yourself now and get to heaven early?" is rather out of order. On the flip side, they can say "If God isn't real, then why don't you just kill yourself and get it over with? It's not like you have anything to fear from it."

IDK, I felt what you said was exactly the same as what a religious nut said to me, that I should just kill myself as there is no point living a life without God. Not much difference between the two. I'm an Atheist, but it's up to other people to decide what they believe in. As long as you treat others with respect and kindness, why should anyone else judge you for your beliefs?

Well, if you truly are a christian and god forgives your sins, then he can forgive you of the sin of killing yourself.

If you don't believe god exists, then you don't need to fear punishment from him, but that's no reason to kill yourself.

In fact, if #YOLO, then that's all the more reason to live as long and as grand as possible.

Ah but in order for God to forgive your sins you must "confess" them before dying. How can you confess them if you're already dead?

I prefer the Buddhism teaching. Everyone reincarnates; if you do good things then your reincarnation will be better than those who did bad things.

I prefer Buddhism altogether though. It's more of a lifestyle than a religion. They don't care who you are, or what you do, just as long as you at least walk the Middle Path (don't do horrible things, but you don't have to be a saint either). Pretty laid back religion.

Well, you can confess the sin you're about to commit.

And while Buddhist teachings may be better, it doesn't make them more likely to be true.

Essentially, Buddhism boils down to "be a nice person. You don't have to be, but life will be better for everyone if you are." I'm not a Buddhist, but I quite like them :3

But you can't do the "Forgive me Father, for I have sinned". I don't know how suicide and religion work and tbh, I don't really care, I just didn't like your comment about killing yourself to go to heaven early.

Again, the confession thing you're quoting is catholic in nature. I deal a lot more with protestants.

It's not the best argument, to be assured, but it was relevant to what I was countering. He claimed that a godless life was meaningless, so why live. So I claimed that living while you could be in heaven is meaningless.

Sorry, how is that fatalistic? Essentially, DD said that everyone has a purpose of living, but it's up to that person to discover it.

And I personally wouldn't rely on God. Not just because I'm an Atheist, but also because I became an Atheist because I decided to reject that there was a God rather than wonder why he abandoned me.

I hope this doesn't come off as trite; this is about all I can say I've really learned from struggle:

Trying to find reason in the bad things that happen is the worst thing ever. It only makes us feel worse. If there's reason to be found, it's in how we respond--and what we take from it. The bad thing itself, though--if there is a reason behind it, I doubt we'd want to know or benefit from knowing.

I hope that doesn't come off as hollow. While I am a Christian, I don't want this to be a bludgeon. This isn't something I've been told; it's something I've learned.

In the past two weeks, my 11year old brother was diagnosed with anorexia, my 13 year old brother with depression, my older sister tried to kill herself and my oldest sister has a 70% chance of losing her baby, and if she is born (and lives) then there is an 90% she'll have a severe disability. My mum is on the cusp of losing her job because, essentially, she's an old woman. The majority of my family suffer from some form of depression.

I'm stuck in a dead end job in a dead end town. Our family have no money whatsoever, we're just keeping our heads above water, and I've got several medical conditions which make me hate the way I look and thus means I have very low self esteem. And there are other things which are excessively long and I don't really want to get into them.

And then there are issues that my friends are going through and since I'm very close to them it effects me too. I'm not going to get into them though.

And the boiler is broken, so the house is absolutely freezing. Seems trivial, but it's completely dead, so we're gonna have to get a new one which costs more money than we have.

Life can be shit. It can be filled with horrible horrible things that seem like they just come through and destroy everything that was good. But the good things are still there, it's just you feel they're not. I don't know what's being done for your depression, but get to the doctors and get a counsellor - you should be able to at least get one for the grief from losing your mother. They may just want to try and up your dosage if you're already on meds, but try and make sure you get a therapist.

As to leaving lolbrary; you may not be finding it funny at the moment, due to everything that's going on but lolbrary is not a site like 9gag. We're a community, we're not just here for some cheap lols, most of us support each other too. And when things aren't quite so shit, you may want to come back to the site that gave you cheap lols anyway, cause sometimes it can be the stupid things which can add a stupid grin to your face.

Well, at least that's how I'm coping atm.

i know how you feel about low self-esteem, im 6'3 and 270 pounds i have no self esteem either, im not on meds for my depression all i have is friends who i can talk too, and since i live in america i cant go to the doctor without insurance which, i dont have

Which everyone knows is my big beef with America...

Well, you can do PMs on this place, so if you do ever want to talk about it properly and not on something so open then feel free to drop me one, 'kay?

At 6' and 275, I feel you. I've become accepting of my body the way it is, not to say that I have much self esteem over it.

well my brother calls me a fat fuck every chance he gets so that really doesnt help me at all

And on the other hand when I call myself fat people explain to me that I'm not all that fat. Funny how the people you're around can make so much of a difference :|

nope my friends call me fat too

You need better friends.

i actually just sit in my bedroom and im learning to program video games so i can start making money off of donations for making stuff

Fans are certainly better friends.

my xbox fan? lol other then that all i have is my tv, computer tower, xbox, and a fish lol...

o, u

Seconded.

for someone who is an atheist I honestly find it fascinating that you are (mis) quoting scripture (from a version of the bible that has been bastardized and mistranslated, btw). Believe what you want, you have the God-given free will to do so. Just keep in mind you are deceived. God will allow your life to be shit until you turn to him. Then He still will allow it to be shit, if it pleases Him. It PLEASED God to KILL his SON. So that mankind might be saved. OH. AND He raised Him back from the dead. Get the whole picture first. But since you know scripture, look at Job. Job lost his entire family, all of his possessions, his land, etc. God let the devil do these things to Job (oh yeah, the devil can't do jack unless God gives him the authority to). After Job wrestled with God, God gave Job back everything he once had and more.

You see, the biggest problem with mankind is that they think they are God.

I was a Christian.

And a whole bunch of shit happened.

So I thought, "why would God allow children to be hurt; they've done nothing wrong. Why does he let innocent people die everyday, people who have had their faith in him all their life?"

And I started to become depressed; even God abandons people? Is that true? Humans are not as good as God, so if God does it then Humans will do it more frequently...

So I had to come to a decision. Become depressed and suicidal over the fact that I had been abandoned by the only being I thought wouldn't, or come to the conclusion that God was not real.

With all the evidence of God not being real, the fact the Bible does not mention the solar system, etc, I came to that decision.

And I've, essentially, been happy ever since. My point with my comment is that things can be shit, and horrible. But it doesn't stay that way.

As seen, as the fact that this Atheist has been high as a kite the last week because her niece was born safely and, despite the odds, has no disabilities.

And none of us "prayed" to God about it, as none of us are religious.

Where am I misquoting scripture in my comment? That is how I genuinely feel about life, that bad can become good and it's filled with ups and downs. I don't need God to feel happy, or to do good things. I do it because I want to, not because I fear going to hell if I don't.

I don't think I'm God. I think I have control over my own life, and what I don't have control of is just the way the cookie crumbles. And it's a healthier lifestyle, for me.

By all means, if you want to believe in someone who is essentially a dick, go ahead. Just don't preach it to me.

That is terrible man... I don't know much what to say other than there's nothing wrong with seeking professional help. We all need support in some way or another.

Also, I've heard this forum is a pretty good place for support regarding suicidal ideation. You may want to have your brother take a look at it maybe?

Also check out this forum on depression. Lots of support there.

you're a stupid shit, delete your account.

Here's an idea; go outside, find a gutter and die in it.

Don't get your panties in a twist nixie. Plus you smell like penis

Oh my gosh! You're so hardcore using a word like penis! Whatever is a girl to do about it!!

Go fuck yourself, no-one else is going to touch you after all.

nigger nigger nigger! show me your snatch

Yup, it's definite. No-one is going to touch you.

WOW LOOK AT YOU YOU'RE SO HARDCORE, CURSING AND SAYING NIGGER ON THE INTERNET. YOU'RE SO REBELLIOUS.

Dafuq? Why are you deleting your account?

basically naked in both, your argument is invalid.

Well, that's from the POV of a female.

If you don't like it, go suck a lemon.

underwear or bikini, I never get uncomfortable looking at women in either. They may get uncomfortable because of my lack of discomfort sometimes but if you don't want people to look at your merchandise, don't flaunt it.

my old room mate showed off her panties (whilst wearing them) cus they were 'psychedelic'. why did i move?