Shelved by: KlokWerk on 2012-03-30
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Just to say, the argument about love between a 13 year old and 17 year old being wrong is null and void, cause in the times it was written that was perfectly fine.
Not quite, but it wasn't due the their romance that they died, they died cause of rivalry (and actually, the mayor guy was like "Can you guys stop killing each other, it's getting fucking ridiculous!")
The three days bit is the only valid bit of the argument.
The whole three days thing is pretty spot on though. Killing yourself over a lost love of three days? How emo can you get...
Just like romance with teenagers nowadays! OMG it IS the greatest love story for them :0
At one point in Germany, killing Jews was considered fine. What's your point?
Well, my point is that for the time period it was set in, it was not considered wrong as a girl was considered a woman as soon as she started her period and this was typically world wide.
And with the Jews, actually, it was NOT widely accepted at all. Hitler actually kept the murder of the Jews really secret and behind close doors, until he really had a grip of the country then he used the fear and power he had so the German population did not stand against him. However, there are Germans alive today that do not believe that the Holocaust occurred.
Please learn some history before trying to use it to make a point
I suggest the same to you :)and if you don't like that reference then use slavery in the US. It was widely accepted, we know better now. The time an action occurs doesn't excuse it.
Please learn some common sense before trying to use it to make a point.
Nowadays, yes, a 17 year old with a 13 year old is sick, but the life expectancy is something around 80 years old rather than 40ish. On top of that, there was a lot of issues with having children later on in life. It was purely to keep the population going and is a whole different kettle of fish.
And then factor in the fact that men wanted to get married to virgins, then yes, you'll have young brides.
And anyway, the guy her parents had chosen to get married to was 25 years old. Thus, in context, the 17 and 13 year old jacking up is not that shocking
I know my history.
Also, slavery and the legal ages for procreation are completely different things. I have common sense, you're just being a dick.
I had an ancestor who lived to 84 in the 1600's,
Which is an incredibly rare feat.
I'm not saying that you didn't get people who lived long lives, it's just the average life expectancy, particularly for a female, was very very low.
Add in the danger of childbirth, it made sense to have girls marry at a young age, as their body could handle it easier and they needed to pop out a lot of sprogs since child death was extremely high.
Laws change to accommodate the times.
No, in your points laws change to suit the puritan ideals. There's no practical purpose for deciding that a 17 year old and a 13 year old can't get it on. Zip.
I personally find R & J to be a comedy. She's fakes death, he doesn't know, out of sadness he kills himself. She wakes up, feels terrible sorrow, and kills herself. Isn't irony hilarious?
I made my English teacher laugh by going at the end of the modern film "then after she stabs herself, he wakes up cause he's not hit a vital point, sees she's stabbed herself and is like 'i'm a fool!" then stabs himself again, then she wakes up sees he's stabbed himself again and is like 'feck!' so stabs herself again" and repeat. He loathed R+J
I think Shakespeare in general is overhyped. He was a syphilitic drunk with a knack for soliloquies that lucked out when others started seeking meaning his his plays.
And a lot of his stuff wasn't even his own. His friends also helped him out with the writing.
Saying that, some of them are good, like A Midsummer Night's Dream. The really hugely popular ones are a bit shit though.
I don't care much for his storylines just because they're steeped in so much melodrama, but the guy was a poet through-and-through, and his observations on the human condition and life in general were brilliant. The man could write in massive blocks, fit a strict pattern, and not waste a word. I think that makes up for his plots.
He wasted many words. That's why the speeches are so superfluous. Although they are magical, in many areas, he forced the iambic pentameter and it bogged down the reading.
...and yet it's still a better love story than Twilight.
This is one of the few times where this joke has been made where it is undeniably correct.
Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet is a better love story than Twilight.