Shelved by: ProfessorNo on 2012-03-16
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I want to upvote this more.
Plus, the repairs on the car will cost about the same as the repairs on the mac.
Why do lolbrary users hate macs so much? I have an acer, so i'm no mac fan boy, but, supposing you have the dough, isn't getting a mac book a worthwhile investment considering, on average, they last longer than PCs. Just curious, no hatin' hurr.
It is not worth the investment because you can literally buy 4 equivalently powered pc laptops for the price of an apple laptop.
So even if that mac lasts you 10 years (which it won't) you're still stuck with a shitty 10 year old computer when the pc user has bought a brand new computer every 2.5 years (and at the 10 year mark the pc user's brand new computer is going to be a shitton better than your 10 year old mac since computers double in power every 2 years on average.
Most people don't keep a computer for more than 3-4 years anyways since the price of computers is constantly dropping over time and the power of processors is increasing exponentially.
I second this. I go to a very tech-centered college where they offer both programs in Video Game Development and Film.
Students in Video Game Dev. are required to have a PC laptop while students in Film are required to have a mac.
My friend in film has a $2500 macbook pro and I have a $800 MSI PC laptop.
My $800 PC out benchmarks his $2500 macbook pro by %200.
I recently bought a laptop for like $550-$650, I can't really remember as it was like 6 months ago.
Anyways, a comparable laptop from apple is $1799. And that is stripped to the core (that is, the most basic model).
For the fanboys out there that try to make the osx is better than windows argument...
It's honestly pathetic.
Oh, and that same friend has a version of Windows 7 on his macbook pro too.
Get this: He tries running Starcraft 2 while on osx, has to play on low settings. Plays Starcraft 2 while on 7, runs on high.
Conclusion: Apple hates games!
technically not true about Moore's Law.. he simply states that you will be able to place 2x transistors in the same surface area every 18 months (to a limit eventually because area is finite).. which does not exactly translate to 2x power because a lot of other things factor into it. Yes it increases processing speed, but not a direct 1:1 ratio as you state. Sorry to be so technical, I'm learning about this stuff in one of my ECE courses :P
You are correct, but you get my point.
I don't know, my sister's mac got thrown from the roof of my dad's car (long story short; pregnant women are forgetful) and it still works.
In fact, it seems to work better O_o
Last night I was on the Apple website and I "assembled" the highest end mac pro (the desktop tower). Including dual 27" displays and some storage interface device (forgot what it was called, but it cost $700, more than an AMD 7970 graphics card), it came to just over $16,000. It can go up to $18-19,000 depending on how many $1500-SSD's you want. Each 27" monitor is $1000 - a Samsung 32" TV (which can easily be hooked up to basically any PC) is $450.
Also the highest end available graphics card from Apple in their Mac pro towers is the Radeon 5870, which is nowhere even close to current-gen. Computer stores don't even sell it anymore. I had it in my PC back in 2010.
I assembled a PC equivalent on NCIX and it came to about $4000-4500 (using high quality parts from good brands, ex. Corsair). A quarter of the cost, with enough left over to literally buy a car.
Also a true story - I don't understand how Apple makes money off of these computers.
"I don't understand how Apple makes money off of these computers."
"A quarter of the cost, with enough left over to literally buy a car."
Seems to me like you just explained it yourself!
Explained what lol I still don't understand.
Almost $20k for a computer (after taxes) is just mind blowing.
Apple's profit margin is unparalleled in the tech industry. They have like a close to 50% profit margin on everything they sell (don't quote me, I pulled this out of my ass but I know it is absurdly high).
They make a shitload of money off of their products by marking them up an insane amount, but also by marketing their products extremely well. They know what people want (simplicity, trendiness, quality, etc) and people are willing to pay a high price for their product.
Apple really is an amazing business. They really do know what they are doing. However, I won't be spending my money on their products. But then again, I'm not their target market.
Oh yea I know they do well, but I think a HUGE part of their profit comes from iphone, ipod, and ipad sales.
I can't imagine they sell too many of their desktop units.
I agree with your point about their marketing though - they got it right there. But I also think the beauty of the flexibility and versatility of a PC is that you can build it "simply" and "elegantly" as well, if that makes sense.
I love building PC's. I picked out every single part in my computer and spent hours piecing it together, tucking every cable, and securing each screw to shape both the technical and aesthetic aspects. It's served me well these past years, and I am intimately familiar with the inner workings of my machine. When something goes wrong, I can comfortably delve into both the hardware and software to find and fix the problem(s) - this results in a rather unique relationship. Gearheads with their cars will understand.
It seems like you can't really have this with an Apple computer - that's why I'm a PC advocate. Correct me if I'm wrong.
"I love building PC's. I picked out every single part in my computer and spent hours piecing it together, tucking every cable, and securing each screw to shape both the technical and aesthetic aspects".
Yes but you have to remember that apple isn't marketing their products to someone like you. Apple is marketing to people who don't like to play with technology, they just want something that works well and is nice
Like in your gearhead example. I hate working on cars, I just want a nice car that gets me point A to point B that has a nice design and I don't have to worry about. Someone like me would probably pay more for a car that performs much worse than a cheaper car that a gearhead has deliberated over and tuned up.
That's what apple does, it provides nice technology products to people that don't want the fuss of dealing with technology. I think that's fine, the thing I don't like is how much they deliberately exploit their customer's ignorance (note I mean the word ignorance in the literal lack of understanding sense, not the offensive "stupid" sense), in the same way a car mechanic would have a much better chance of taking advantage of me than he would a gearhead.
Thanks for the input guys. Plain and simply, i'm a caveman when it comes to computers. However, i do know this: My acer aspire has been running fine for the past three years, and i paid $400 for it. I just can't see myself spending any thing close to what a mac costs. Not gonna happen.
"My acer aspire has been running fine for the past three years, and i paid $400 for it."
I'd say you made a good choice then ;-)
See that's the other thing.. Even though I don't know crap about computers, it' STILL better to get a PC. I don't understand people who buy macs. They're more expensive for no reason, and they're less compatible with everything.
Aside from all the cost comparisons and all, no one has mentioned the main reason pc users hate macs so much. It's cause mac users are so self righteous about their superior computers. And the way Apple designs them just different enough to fuck with you when you do have to use a mac.